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Post by Beachcomber on Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:39 pm

Surveillance of IOD's has surfaced before but not in this particular force, as far as I know. This Freedom of Information request should interest us all.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/surveillance_of_former_injured_o#incoming-614896

Injury on Duty retirements are a serious matter and awards are not handed out like sweeties. The inference with surveillance on IOD's is that they are in some way committing criminal offences. The IOD pensions and awards are granted in accordance with Regulations only after stringent medical assessment.

Does the force think that their IOD's have obtained their retirements dishonestly? Anyone who has been retired through injury on duty knows that this is all total rubbish and, if any police force does consider that IOD retirements have been granted undeservedly, the first area to be investigated is the competence of the medical advisers and staff responsible for handling IOD matters.

The response to this FOI request should be very interesting....
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Post by Blackmax on Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:01 pm

I didn't think A & S could stoop any lower after the way they've been treating their IOD's.

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Post by RedDog on Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:57 pm

To my way of thinking this is harassment of vulnerable members of the public! It is sheer abuse of power! I am disgusted! Evil or Very Mad

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Post by officerdribble on Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:41 pm

That's awful. Not surprised. Just as long as they know we're watching them too. Both of their faces.

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Post by Beachcomber on Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:27 am

Here is a previous case from another force. It seems that some forces are very keen to protect the public purse when it comes to IOD pensions but will quite happily waste money and resources.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2823742/Police-wasted-100000-spying-on-sick-officer.html
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Post by Beachcomber on Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:27 am

It is a lot easier to track people these days. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are followed around by someone looking like Inspector Clouseau. If you are at all worried by this, take a look at this video which gives a bit of general information about how easy it is to track people these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDePNEkiBds

If you are like me, don't worry about it. It is a dreadful waste of resources.


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Post by P1 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:04 am

RIPA requires reasonable grounds to suspect someone is committing an offence.

I wonder who signed off the authority to put Mr Pugh under surveillance and what the grounds were ..... there are huge implications for the invasion of privacy.

I hope he sued (and won).

The PMAB were clearly not impressed with South Wales Police antics.

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Post by Guest on Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:20 am

Mr Beachcomber your link to the Mr Neil Smith Guy was a revelation, I thought he was an online journalist. He threw down the gauntlet when he said that people would find it hard to find out about him online "the little tinker!" he was obviously setting a challenge. Well I claim first prize! hopefully a new Chainset and Shimano fixed gear will be in the post. I`m tired of my Choppers 3 speed after 40 years. Whahoo!!!.

http://www.ktrs.info/staff.html

He is probably tracking me now, who gives a Damn?. My bike will be a Bobby Dazzler!.


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Post by Beachcomber on Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:40 am

I don't think Mr Smith is really trying to hide. Anyone who has a web site registered in his name and uses social media like LInkedin, Facebook and YouTube etc isn't too worried about exposure. Nice if he was one of us, he could be very helpful, our forces have been known to compile information about IOD's from online sources - remember a few years ago when they were looking at IOD's houses on Google street View and then using Zoopla etc. to determine the value of the IOD's home.

Seriously though, I am astonished what details can be gleaned from social media and people do need to be careful what they post on these services. Wink


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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:20 pm

Mr Beachcomber, I have always "taken You!" Seriously Very Happy

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Post by Tallulah on Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:11 pm

I think you may find Mr Smith is fighting on the right side.

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